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norajean_sf: Since it's near the top of the hour I'm going to save log and y'all can chat while I do that. nefret111: i think i should use a heat sink (a tile) and then some aluminum foil bonsaikathy: yes, that's what I do nndewbre: I can't use my toaster over because it won't hold the temp, are there some that do? bonsaikathy: I use a toaster oven with no problems but the temp is rock solid everclay: nefret - I have to aluminum pans bonsaikathy: unlike many from what I understand nefret111: top and bottom, eva? everclay: I clamp them together as bottom and lid nefret111: great, kathy nefret111: good idea everclay: works wonders nefret111: then it would be safe from both elements everclay: sure nefret111: i thought that when the weather is very cold, it makes it peak more often mazutwo: good idea about top and bottom will try that everclay: but you still have to check with a thermometer norajean_sf: Ok, I'm taking the Top of the Hour break, 10 minutes or so, smoke em if you got em, brb nefret111: i always have a thermometer inside everclay: good mazutwo: Where is the best place to put the thermometer nefret111: wish i could do mazutwo's trick everclay: right next to the pan everclay: as close as you can get mazutwo: thanks everclay: yw nefret111: have been known to bake small pieces in a hot pot nefret111: works fine mazutwo: what is a hot pot nefret111: suze weinberg's nefret111: schmooze with suze everclay: brb mazutwo: like the one they melt that stuff in that I can't buy here nefret111: yes, mazu nefret111: where are you, mazu? mazutwo: Australia nefret111: great, thanks nefret111: zigzag doesn't have them? nefret111: i know that they are over in NZ mazutwo: I have tried there and someone said they sell them at an online stamp place but I have yet to check it out nefret111: ok nefret111: you still get fumes, so i was doing it to not have to go outside nefret111: however, if you don't want fumes, put it outside, too nefret111: or maybe by a window mazutwo: embossing powder, sorry senior moment . Does it work on clay nefret111: yes, it works very well nefret111: my favorite technique is to imprint the clay, then sprinkle on emb. powder. as you cure the clay, the powder melts and fuses mazutwo: Do you use it the same as the other powders are used on clay nefret111: not really nefret111: not like pearl ex bonsaikathy: it works on clay bonsaikathy: it gives a beautiful gloss finish bonsaikathy: but I only seem to like the clear mazutwo: I like what you said about it melting as the clay cures so i know not to use it on a vertical surface nefret111: yes, that's right bonsaikathy: yes it does melt everclay: You can also mix it in trans clay nefret111: you can sprinkle on various colors on the piece mazutwo: something I have a fair bit of in my stash of goodies bonsaikathy: but I think it'll be fine on a vertical surface, it sticks pretty good to the clay nefret111: yes - i like verdigris in trans clay nefret111: great, kathy norajean_sf: back nefret111: wb norajean_sf: If we're ready we can go to the next step. everclay: ready mazutwo: Wow I have so much to think about, as i have some pots to make I will be able to do some new things. I haven't made a cane as yet so plain is good nndewbre: ready mazutwo: ready nefret111: ready norajean_sf: Ok, now this is the "First Pass" just mounding up clay where we need features norajean_sf: there's no detail yet. norajean_sf: the "Second Pass" is to move the clay from the eyes up to the eyebrows or we got a googly eyed dude. We move some clay from under the eye more to the cheek bone. norajean_sf: We move some clay from the lower cheek to the mouth. norajean_sf: I think that the problem that new sculptors have is they put in detail before the clay is moved into position. bonsaikathy: I think you're right norajean_sf: So I'm going to do the "Second Pass". If there's any questions at this point ask them now or I won't see them. lvmypolymerclay: none here beadyeyedbrat has joined the conference. everclay: Hi Kim beadyeyedbrat: Hi Eva nefret111: hi, kim bonsaikathy: brb lvmypolymerclay: brb need some hot tea for my sore throat and cough norajean_sf: If someone can share with Kim what I'm fixing to do, I'll go ahead and do it. nefret111: kim, second phase You have invited beadyeyedbrat to view your webcam. nefret111: moving clay around now nefret111: to where it is needed bonsaikathy: don't do anything interesting yet bonsaikathy: I'll be right back beadyeyedbrat: I need more clay shapers everclay: me 2 nefret111: i have only a wedge shaper beadyeyedbrat: Me2 everclay: I got a knitting needle everclay: or two greatauntjudy: Crochet hooks can be handy, too. everclay: just about anything can be handy beadyeyedbrat: Paint brush handles... mazutwo: i have a lot of dental tools bonsaikathy: I do use paint brush handles beadyeyedbrat: I've even put a small ball of clay on the end of a broken needle tool. everclay: I've been thinking about making a few shapers with mold putty mazutwo: very ingenious beadyeyedbrat: Let us know how it works if you do everclay: sure will beadyeyedbrat: He looks smug nefret111: some people shape the end of a fresh pencil eraser beadyeyedbrat: Ooh everclay: I tried that - didn't come out smotth enough nefret111: ah everclay: smooth* beadyeyedbrat: Wonder if mold material might work everclay: they make silicone shapers, right everclay: so I don't see why not beadyeyedbrat: hmmmm beadyeyedbrat: I have some that is a year old... norajean_sf: Now I'll do his lips, I start with the indentation on the center upper lip, use the center of the nose to line it up norajean_sf: then do the lip separation line norajean_sf: on the upper lip, on the sides there's a downward slope norajean_sf: now push up under the lower lip norajean_sf: I find the men's lips are less full than women's norajean_sf: the lower lip often is narrower than the upper lip so I'll tuck in the outer edges of the lower lip norajean_sf: looks like a man's mouth to me norajean_sf: shall I do that again, without stopping to type? everclay: almost ready to kiss - if you were so inclined nefret111: heh spksgntly2 has joined the conference. You have invited spksgntly2 to view your webcam. norajean_sf: So let's do the lips again? everclay: good idea spksgntly2: hi everyone...sorry Im late everclay: there goes the kiss everclay: Hi there beadyeyedbrat: One way to keep him quiet spksgntly2: hi ever.. everclay: lol nefret111: he is looking like dana andrews spksgntly2: is that a hard plastic tip or like a sponge tip? everclay: rubber or silicone spksgntly2: hmm I need to shop some more norajean_sf: kind of soft but not sponge norajean_sf: Now for the nose norajean_sf: I shape the outside of the nose, form the sides of the nostrils, then drill the holes by poking and pulling side ways. beadyeyedbrat: eeww! everclay: I was just thinking that spksgntly2: looks painful nefret111: haha spksgntly2: she makes it look so easy beadyeyedbrat: Now I would be squishing everything I'd already done. everclay: me 2 mazutwo: regal nose norajean_sf: Now let's make him happy beadyeyedbrat: It's Jean Luc! bonsaikathy: haha, she's done him before bonsaikathy: love it NJ norajean_sf: or we can make him sad bonsaikathy: he's really shaping up spksgntly2: very nice...like I said..you make it look so easy everclay: takes a lot of practice everclay: shut uppa your face spksgntly2: do you feel that those tools are a big help? mazutwo: i need to practice practice practice#:-S spksgntly2: me too bonsaikathy: me too everclay: welcome to the club spksgntly2: agony? posey4u: me toooooo everclay: I'm in awe here, NJ bonsaikathy: and tomorrow I may just take clay make a face, mush and make it over and then start over again :) beadyeyedbrat: He just saw his cell phone bill spksgntly2: lol beadyeyedbrat: There you go Kathy everclay: or mine posey4u: thats cute mazutwo: yeah aPeabody happening with heads norajean_sf: let's make him old bonsaikathy: he was about to eat a fly beadyeyedbrat: Now he's starting to look like me. bonsaikathy: totally awesome mazutwo: a few strokes apush here and it changes so quickly norajean_sf: Ok, Questions? beadyeyedbrat: Are you using Super Sculpey? everclay: this may be too soon - but what do you do for eyballs bonsaikathy: I'd say premo norajean_sf: Premo, white and burnt umber beadyeyedbrat: ah norajean_sf: eyeball cane, I'll get the link beadyeyedbrat: Great flesh tone bonsaikathy: I only use premo everclay: got the link norajean_sf: Biz-Archive/Sculpt/Eyeball/04-24-03-thms.htm posey4u: Nora Jean...why dont you write a book ..your so gooddddddddd norajean_sf: scroll down, there's a full face example how to do easy eyes mazutwo: What exactly did you do to the eyes to age them please NJ beadyeyedbrat: And make these into dvds for sale. norajean_sf: bags under the eyes norajean_sf: crows feet at the outer edge bonsaikathy: and chin pulled back some mazutwo: ah push up and lines norajean_sf: sag the cheeks down to jowls at the jaw line bonsaikathy: loss of bone from no teeth norajean_sf: yes mash the lips in, thin them too spksgntly2: would you recommend those tools you are using? bonsaikathy: he'd make a great wizard NJ norajean_sf: they are the only tools I use for face sculpting norajean_sf: I'll save log at this point nndewbre: I've been doing this like the book says, starting with the forehead and eyes. I just did one like NJ and I'm liking the look of it already. spksgntly2: use them for anything else? like smoothing things out? nndewbre: Seems to get it going right to do the chin first bonsaikathy: ears, can you wait to do them until I can get home |
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